Alicorn comments on The role of mathematical truths - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 25 April 2010 07:52:32PM 3 points [-]

∃x∃y ( ~(x=y) & ( ∀z ( ~(z=x) ⊃ (z=y) ) & ( ~(z=y) ⊃ (z=x) ) )

Only works in a limited universe of discourse, though.

Comment author: Larks 25 April 2010 10:34:29PM *  3 points [-]

Or ∃x∃y ( ~(x=y) & ∀z ( z=y or z=x) )

Still, that's not 'twoness'. That's a sentence that's only satisfied when there are two things, and could be taken as a definition of what it means to assert that there are two things, or even as a definition of there being two such things, but it's not 'twoness'. 'Twoness' implies number is a property of objects, which I think Frege pretty conclusively disproved.

Comment author: wedrifid 26 April 2010 06:40:04AM 4 points [-]

Only works in a limited universe of discourse, though.

In lower brow discourse, try: (.)v(.)

Comment author: [deleted] 02 August 2010 05:15:34AM 2 points [-]

I think you may have meant (.Y.)

Comment author: wedrifid 03 August 2010 02:46:10AM 2 points [-]

That works too. Although I must confess I prefer the smaller cup size. :P

Comment author: Jack 25 April 2010 08:58:26PM 1 point [-]

I think the fact that a definition of "2" in symbolic logic can be taken to count as an answer to the question "What is twoness, physically?" pretty much says all that needs to be said about the clarity of the question.