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Comment author: byrnema 28 April 2010 09:38:28PM *  0 points [-]

I'm confused by the terminology, but I think I would be a relativist objectivist.

I certainly think that morality is relative -- what is moral is agent-dependent -- but whether or not the agent is behaving morally is an objective fact about that agent's behavior, because the behavior either does or doesn't conform with that agent's morality.

But I don't think the distinction between a relativist objectivist and a relativist subjectivist is terribly exciting: it just depends on whether you consider an agent 'moral' if it conforms to its morality (relativist objectivist) or yours (relativist subjectivist).

But maybe I've got it wrong, because this view seems so reasonable, whereas you've indicated that it's rare.

Comment author: Jack 28 April 2010 09:48:52PM 2 points [-]

The key phrase for subjectivism is "mind dependent" so if you think other people's morality comes from their minds then you are a relativist subjectivist.

I just realized I don't think people should conform to their own morality, I think people should conform to my morality which I guess would make me a subjective non-relativist.