NancyLebovitz comments on MathOverflow as an example for LessWrong - Less Wrong

37 Post author: Academian 27 April 2010 06:30PM

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Comment author: Strange7 27 April 2010 08:53:16PM 10 points [-]

Do we have evidence there is actually a demand for this? Any lurkers want to pop in and say they would like this?

Not sure if I qualify as a lurker, but, well... this is a dojo. If a little kid walks in here and asks a stupid question, rhetorical and logical ass-kicking will commence. The virtues of rationality number twelve, and mercy is not among them. It's all terribly serious.

I have a theory about fiction, which I would like to test. People take fiction less seriously, because they aren't personally involved, but they can still learn from it (which explains the fallscy of generalization from fictional evidence). If it was possible for newcomers to adopt an explicitly fictional persona, and roleplay as budding rationalists within a fictional setting, I predict that would get more new people engaged. There is considerable precedent for success of online roleplay communities, and no reason I am aware of to believe that establishing a fictional setting with the explicit goal of rationally exploring the fantastical elements of that setting would be less successful.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 27 April 2010 10:11:41PM 4 points [-]

I think the idea of personas is at least worth trying.

Not sure if I qualify as a lurker, but, well... this is a dojo. If a little kid walks in here and asks a stupid question, rhetorical and logical ass-kicking will commence. The virtues of rationality number twelve, and mercy is not among them. It's all terribly serious.

I very strongly recommend maintaining norms of courtesy, unless we are specifically trying to train the ability to stay calm when attacked-- and that isn't beginner's work.

It's impossible to completely avoid hurting people's feelings, but it cuts down on the noise level if you start with the presumption that people are capable of learning, and that you can't deduce their general defects of intellect and character because they asked a stupid question.

If I've jumped to inaccurate conclusions about what you mean by ass-kicking and lack of mercy, please let me know.

Comment author: Strange7 27 April 2010 10:47:13PM 1 point [-]

If I've jumped to inaccurate conclusions about what you mean by ass-kicking and lack of mercy, please let me know.

No, that's exactly what I meant. Thank you.