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Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 04 May 2010 05:21:23PM *  4 points [-]

I half-seriously believe that this is the proper explanation of the Fermi Paradox: we can't observe other civilizations because they are approaching us with the speed of light.

I agree (NB: also computer scientist, not physicist) with the premise that civilizations probably expand at near-c, but there's a problem with this. Since it seems that intelligent life like us could have arisen billions of years ago, if life is common and this is the explanation for the Fermi Paradox, we should be very surprised to observe ourselves existing so late.

Comment author: zero_call 05 May 2010 07:25:51AM *  0 points [-]

No, because if there is something like a Gaussian distribution of the emergence times of intelligent civilizations, we could just be one of the civilizations on the tail.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 05 May 2010 03:25:45PM *  0 points [-]

Exactly. The argument is that, since being on the tail of a Gaussian distribution is a priori unlikely, our age + no observation of past civilizations is anthropic evidence that life isn't too common.

Comment author: zero_call 05 May 2010 09:09:02PM *  0 points [-]

We have no idea what the Gaussian distribution looks like. We don't necessarily have to be on the tail, just somewhere say one sigma away. No observation of civilizations just corresponds to us being younger than average and the other civilizations being far away. Or we could be older and the other civilizations just haven't formed yet. But none of this can imply whether life is uncommon or common.