taw comments on Rationality quotes: May 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: taw 04 May 2010 09:34:04AM 0 points [-]

Modern systems are highly resilient and redundant in places where this is likely to pay off. Look at the power system. Look at the Internet. They are capable of working in spite of big localized failures.

Comment author: gwern 04 May 2010 12:46:36PM *  1 point [-]

The Internet is sometimes capable of working. It can go down and has; the Morris worm wasn't even malicious (according to Morris). Designs for 'Warhol worms' which do the same thing in just a few minutes have been floating around since the mid-nineties - it's just that botnets are more profitable. And even inadvertent mistakes can cripple lots of functionality.

"It has been proved that the scale-free network is robust to random failures but vulnerable to malicious attacks."

In the real world, malicious attacks are just as valid a source of failure as randomness. (It doesn't matter why the patient dies if he dies.)

Comment author: taw 04 May 2010 02:06:10PM 1 point [-]

Neither Morris worm nor any other worms caused long term damage to the Internet.

Comment author: gwern 04 May 2010 03:03:24PM 2 points [-]

Neither societal collapse nor any other economic failure caused long term damage to the Humanity.

Comment author: taw 04 May 2010 03:26:33PM 3 points [-]

This is also true, but Internet worms have particularly little effect of any kind, even for definition of "long term" being a "month or more".