gwern comments on The Math of When to Self-Improve - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 16 August 2010 04:44:02AM *  1 point [-]

If fluid intelligence doesn't help me learn stuff faster, is it really worth having? Doesn't it seem likely that learning things makes you better at learning things? If this is true, could an increase in fluid intelligence be the mechanism for it?

Well... I suspect we may be having vocabulary issues here. Gf is defined as "the capacity to think logically and solve problems in novel situations, independent of acquired knowledge."

If your existing Gc already applies to a situation - say, your algebra applies to the economics you're learning - then to some extent the problems of economics are not 'novel'.

It's only a pure-Gf problem when the problems are highly novel. In that case I find it intuitively plausible that a lot of irrelevant Gc wouldn't help much.

Example: if I memorize a couple thousand English words (pronunciation & definition) for the GRE for a large increase in my Gc, why should I expect any increased ability to write proofs in mathematical set theory which will initially draw on Gf as a strange and alien subject?

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 16 August 2010 05:58:25AM *  0 points [-]

I agree that memorizing words wouldn't help your fluid intelligence.

If doing your first few set-theory proofs draws on Gf heavily, then strictly intuitively speaking it seems to me that this ought to improve Gf just about as fast as anything. Of course, solid experimental results rank above my intuition--but the dual-n-back result isn't solid.