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Comment author: kodos96 11 May 2010 11:45:25PM *  6 points [-]

I just took the wired test, and scored a 31. I'm not sure what to make of this. For years now I've wondered whether I have asperger's symptoms, and gone back and forth on it, but never been able to make up my mind - seeking a formal diagnosis seems like waste of time, since there isn't any real treatment. But I AM curious about it.

My opinion seems to go back and forth depending on whose description of the symptoms I'm reading - sometimes I'll read something on asperger's and think "Yes, that's totally me", and other times I'll read something and say "no, not me at all". It really seems to depend on how the author phrases the symptoms.

The big thing to me seems to be the "inability to read social cues/read between the lines/read facial expressions".... That doesn't sound like me - I definitely feel I am able to pick up and read these kinds of cues - better than most people in fact.... I just have a very hard time responding in kind. As to understanding politeness/social appropriateness, it's not so much that I don't UNDERSTAND these things, as that I find them silly, and can't force myself to play along with things that I see as stupid status games masquerading as meaningful social interaction.

I see two possible explanations for this discrepancy:

  • Asperger's symptoms are consistently misunderstood by the researchers who study them - they observe people failing to appropriately RESPOND to social cues, etc, and incorrectly assume they're failing to UNDERSTAND those cues.
  • I don't have asperger's.

I'm not sure how to evaluate the relative likelihood of these two possibilities. Does anyone else here with aspeger's or other autism spectrum disorders have similar experiences?

Comment author: whpearson 12 May 2010 01:25:07PM 2 points [-]

I'm also like this, somewhat. I only scored a 13, but I am in no way neuro typical. Although someone who worked closely with Asperger's people said I had some of the properties of Asberger's.

I do more closely relate to the schizoid personality disorder that Risto posted. Although that linked it to autistic thinking as well.

I suspect that it is a mix of the two options, some people/society in general are lumping every introverted neuro untypical into asperger's/autism however there are two groups in that larger group.

Comment author: kodos96 12 May 2010 06:43:29PM *  3 points [-]

some people/society in general are lumping every introverted neuro untypical into asperger's/autism however there are two groups in that larger group

Yeah... I read Risto's link (I think I'd read it before), and I do see some similarities there, but neither lines up with me 100%... the more I read about these things, the more it seems to me like the whole idea of classifying psychiatric 'disorders' is just bunk - a widely diverse range of personality characteristics are just being artificially crammed onto a one dimensional scale, and then clusters are labeled as 'disorders' despite not really having a common cause.

Comment author: whpearson 12 May 2010 11:52:18PM 1 point [-]

I'd agree. I suspect that there might be some real clusters with common causes, but then there are probably lots of other people that appear in or near that cluster that don't have that cause.

Here is an interesting experiment that critiques the psychiatric profession I came across while trying to find about the scientific basis of the DSM classifications (little).