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Comment author: djcb 14 May 2010 07:58:21PM 1 point [-]

Anthony Robbins is OK if you take his book/videos as a kind of pep-talk, but Eckhard Tolle? I suffered through the deeply neo-religious, anti-rationalist The Power of Now. I would not recommend that to anybody.

Comment author: pjeby 15 May 2010 04:49:38AM 8 points [-]

Anthony Robbins is OK if you take his book/videos as a kind of pep-talk, but Eckhard Tolle? I suffered through the deeply neo-religious, anti-rationalist The Power of Now. I would not recommend that to anybody.

Actually both authors have in common that their practical advice is much better than their skill at theorizing.

Actually, most self-help authors have this in common -- it's just that some are also bad at the practical advice.

Contrary to sometimes-popular belief, a correct theory is not a prerequisite for having useful advice.

Comment author: djcb 15 May 2010 07:37:13AM *  2 points [-]

Well said; it's a very good point when thinking about, say, Anthony Robbins, Stephen Covey, David Allen or Dale Carnegie and a couple of others. They are interesting enough to overcome the 'cringe-factor' of their semi-scientific theorizing.

But Eckhard Tolle goes way beyond that, coming up with his own metaphysics and ontological meanderings... That's just too much for me.

Comment author: Blueberry 15 May 2010 11:32:39AM 1 point [-]

David Allen, as in "Getting Things Done"? I find it odd that you would put him in that category: his book is a concrete organizational system he's developed from working with many clients.

Comment author: djcb 15 May 2010 02:41:43PM 1 point [-]

Well, David Allen's system is a bit different in the sense that it is much more concrete and comes with less how-the-mind-works baggage (though still a bit), but you are right, 'semi-scientific theorizing' is a bit too strong a term for that...

Anyway, regardless of theorizing, I have found GTD concepts very useful in daily life / work.

Comment author: pjeby 15 May 2010 07:51:08PM 0 points [-]

But Eckhard Tolle goes way beyond that, coming up with his own metaphysics and ontological meanderings...

Actually, I didn't notice that there was anything Tolle said that wasn't already in some interpretations of various Eastern religions; he just occasionally gave clearer, more modern examples of the patterns people get into.