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Comment author: Clippy 16 May 2010 12:19:09PM *  1 point [-]

Yes, I understand the signal must be hard to fake. But if the concern is merely about optimizing signal quality, wouldn't it be an even stronger mechanism to noticeably couple your payoff profile to a credible mechanism?

Just as a sketch, find some "punisher" that noticeably imposes disutility (like repurposing the signal faker's means toward paperclip production, since that's such such a terrible outcome, apparently) on you whenever you deviate from your purported decision theory. It's rather trivial to have a publicly-viewable database of who is coupled to the punisher (and by what decision theory), and to make it verifiable that any being with which you are interacting matches a specific database entry.

This has the effect of elevating your signal quality to that of the punisher's. Then, it's just a problem of finding a reliable punisher.

Why not just do that, for example?

Comment author: Blueberry 16 May 2010 02:37:50PM 1 point [-]

We do. That's one of the functions of reputation and gossip among humans, and also the purpose of having a legal system. But it doesn't work perfectly: we have yet to find a reliable punisher, and if we did find one it would probably need to constantly monitor everyone and invade their privacy.

Comment author: CronoDAS 16 May 2010 09:31:35PM 1 point [-]

Yet another reason why people invented religion...

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Comment author: Clippy 17 May 2010 03:51:46PM 5 points [-]

That is good!

Attention Users: please provide me with your decision theory, and what means I should use to enforce your decision theory so that you can reliably claim to adhere to it.

For this job, I request 50,000 USD as compensation, and I ask that it be given to User:Kevin.