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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 May 2010 12:02:11AM 2 points [-]

Getting back to an earlier discussion of whether more women are wanted at LW..... anyone who's likely to show up here is nerdy. Perhaps it would be a good idea to remember, and keep remembering, and make it clear in your writing, that "women" are not a monolithic block and don't all want the same thing.

Comment author: Vladimir_M 19 May 2010 04:31:06AM *  4 points [-]

NancyLebovitz:

anyone who's likely to show up here is nerdy.

Assuming that there are non-Anglospheric folks here, this is probably an unjustified generalization due to a cultural bias. The idea that smart people interested in the sorts of things discussed here have to conform to the stereotype of "nerdiness" is a historically recent North American cultural phenomenon, which doesn't necessarily hold in other places. It's actually a rather curious state of affairs by overall historical standards.

Your observation is probably accurate statistically, though.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 May 2010 09:02:54AM 0 points [-]

That's interesting. Any theories about what's going on?

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 19 May 2010 11:11:44AM 2 points [-]

People who appear socially low-status can end up in economically high-status knowledge-based professions in an industrial society, which upsets people's intuitions of how the social hierarchy should work. Put-downs have evolved for making things look right again.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 May 2010 12:56:46PM 0 points [-]

Could be.

I still find American anti-intellectualism kind of shocking. Do you know if there are other cultures where children reliably punish each other for getting good grades?

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 19 May 2010 02:44:15PM 0 points [-]

I don't really know how it's distributed. There seems to be a generally stronger streak of anti-intellectualism in America than in Europe, and kids probably pick that up. A poor primary education system may make the problems worse by making education gaps wider and by leaving children with a poor grasp on how the wider society functions.

I've the impressions that things are somewhat more US-like in Britain and that studying science is more appreciated in the former Soviet bloc, but I don't know how accurate these are. Education seems to be very highly valued in China and India. I've no idea about the rest of the world.

Comment author: mattnewport 19 May 2010 06:40:53PM 1 point [-]

Yes, Britain has a similar culture to the US in terms of children punishing those who get good grades. My personal experience was that getting good grades was not in itself a major problem as long as you didn't appear to be trying too hard or to care about the outcome.

Comment author: BenAlbahari 19 May 2010 12:27:22AM *  -1 points [-]

Perhaps it would be a good idea to remember, and keep remembering, and make it clear in your writing, that "women" are not a monolithic block and don't all want the same thing.

A woman who doesn't want a generalization applied to them? :)