jacob_cannell comments on More art, less stink: Taking the PU out of PUA - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jacob_cannell 11 September 2010 06:22:05PM *  0 points [-]

Not really - the particular case would be a novice PUA who can fake charisma through 4 hours of prepared material, but thereafter just reverts to his normal geeky self.

Fake charisma.

Comment author: wedrifid 11 September 2010 06:40:12PM 6 points [-]

That was the kind of case I was considering. Moreover, if someone can successfully have a 4 hour interaction with prepared material then that's a damn impressive achievement. Managing the flow of a conversation such that you can use that much canned material without the interaction being grossly stilted is extremely difficult and it is the presentation far more so than the material itself that conveys charisma.

Fake charisma. ... a hair's breadth (or less) away from being an oxymoron.

Comment author: HughRistik 11 September 2010 09:43:07PM 6 points [-]

The thing is, if you can have 4 hours of charismatic conversation, and do this several times, the self that you revert back to will slowly get more charismatic.

This is like putting on makeup that actually makes the face more beautiful when taken off.

I'm not so worried about this sort of faking, because it trains you to develop the real thing that you are faking.

Comment author: wedrifid 12 September 2010 05:47:07PM 0 points [-]

This is like putting on makeup that actually makes the face more beautiful when taken off.

Tretinoin. Thoroughly recommended!