wedrifid comments on More art, less stink: Taking the PU out of PUA - Less Wrong

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Comment author: XFrequentist 12 September 2010 02:40:23AM *  4 points [-]

Adams' list is a jump-off point, and was included for illustrative purposes only. Cults and propaganda won't make the cut. I wouldn't think hypnosis would either (although I'd be interested hearing your anecdote).

"Dark Arts" on LessWrong has a specific meaning. The accusation has merit; this program intends to influence others based on factors other than rationality. However, I (and others) have argued that learning this type of material is:

  1. a good exercise in instrumental rationality.
  2. necessary to accomplish things in the real world.
  3. possibly a requirement to get people to consider the merit of your ideas at all.
Comment author: wedrifid 12 September 2010 12:27:36PM 3 points [-]

It is also a good exercise in epistemic rationality. Neglecting or corrupting whole swathes of your map not epistemically rational, even if you suspect that part of the territory contains dragons.

Comment author: XFrequentist 12 September 2010 03:37:32PM 2 points [-]

Humanity: Thar be dragons!