Violet comments on More art, less stink: Taking the PU out of PUA - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 12 September 2010 01:01:34PM 5 points [-]

I find it a shame that Alicorn isn't currently willing to discuss possible criticisms of women's preferences

Altering one's preferences, especially ones as deeply lodged as ones about sexuality, is a difficult project. I expect I could accomplish certain hacks in myself because self-modification is something I practice and have developed good instincts about. I don't expect women in general to share this ability. So what would it accomplish to hammer out a new set of ideal preferences that it would be better if women had instead? They can't adopt them on purpose even if they see the logic indicating that they should. At best, they can follow a norm that has them act as though they adopt these new preferences, and that just has them acting contrary to their own real preferences to suit those of men.

If there's some point to entertaining criticism of women's preferences (as opposed to my own atypical preferences which are unlikely to percolate out into the population) that I have missed, do please let me know.

Comment author: Violet 12 September 2010 01:29:38PM 7 points [-]

If altering preferences is so easy then the men could alter themselves to be bisexual and solve the problem...

Not advocating that, but if we talk about altered preferences, that is the simplest solution.

Comment author: wedrifid 12 September 2010 05:35:12PM *  6 points [-]

Obligatory SMBC link.

Summoned Demon: Any wish you have is yours, for the price of your soul!

Angel: Don't do it! No wish could justify an eternity of suffering.

Demon Summoner: I want to be bisexual, immune to STDs and have absolutely no standards.

Angel: S@#T

Demon: whistles.

Angel: That's good.

Comment author: cousin_it 12 September 2010 11:15:58PM *  2 points [-]

Hah, I think about this solution almost every time that women test my nerves! But then I look at the gay/bi people I know, and their lives seem to have even more drama than mine. (That could be some selection effect though...)