datadataeverywhere comments on More art, less stink: Taking the PU out of PUA - Less Wrong

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Comment author: datadataeverywhere 12 September 2010 11:09:50PM 0 points [-]

I assure you they are much more creative in finding ways to inflict lasting emotional pain.

How can you assure me? Through your own personal experiences, or can you point me to a series of scientifically-conducted studies on the issue? I assure you, only one of those would assure me.

I have little experience with men harassed by women, but based on how viciously some women harass each other, I am perfectly willing to agree that women can be very hurtful. All I object to is your apparent willingness to generalize your personal experiences with X into a comparison between X and Y.

Comment author: pjeby 13 September 2010 12:24:16AM 1 point [-]

All I object to is your apparent willingness to generalize your personal experiences with X into a comparison between X and Y.

I was comparing the subsets of X and Y that had bullied or harassed me personally.

Comment author: datadataeverywhere 13 September 2010 02:58:20AM 0 points [-]

You didn't actually mention Y, but even if you had, you wouldn't have data to support the comparison of abuses(X,Y) to abuses(Y, X), which seemed to be your claim.

Comment author: pjeby 13 September 2010 03:09:27AM 2 points [-]

You didn't actually mention Y, but even if you had, you wouldn't have data to support the comparison of abuses(X,Y) to abuses(Y, X), which seemed to be your claim.

As I said, I was comparing abused-by(X, me) to abused-by(Y, me), in rejection of the hypothesis that males are not subjected to cruel "street harassment" by females.

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 21 September 2010 03:34:14AM 0 points [-]

Your notation is unconventional - I read "abused-by(X,you)" as "X was abused by you". I know this is the converse of what you really meant.