wedrifid comments on More art, less stink: Taking the PU out of PUA - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 15 September 2011 11:32:39AM 1 point [-]

Viliam's response brought my attention to this quote-of-a-quote. It struck me as massively ill-conceived.

The second flaw is that the seduction community never or rarely addresses those things that women are doing wrong. It's like a child who throws a tantrum and instead of disciplining him or her you take the position that you have to find out what it is they want and give it to them.

This is just entirely backwards. The lessons on discipline - both academic and practical - that I learned during my training and brief career as a teacher have significant overlap with those of PUA. Taking actions in response to those of others that make it clear what behaviours they can get away with with you is an instrumental necessity with people in general.

Is the critic's complaint that the interaction is framed as 'pressing buttons that have a desired influence on future behaviour' rather than 'make a moral judgement and punish those whose behavior does not match your ideals'?