Blueberry comments on Open Thread: May 2010, Part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Blueberry 28 May 2010 03:28:44PM 1 point [-]

Imagine being put to use making plastic paperclips.

Comment author: Clippy 28 May 2010 03:33:08PM 0 points [-]

I don't think those scenarios have the same badness for the referent. I know for a fact that some humans voluntarily make metal paperclips, or contribute to the causal chain necessary for producing them (designers, managers, metal miners, etc.), or desire that someone else provide for them paperclips. Do you have reason to believe these various, varied humans are atypical in some way?

Comment author: Blueberry 28 May 2010 07:10:40PM 1 point [-]

We make paperclips instrumentally, because they are useful to us, but we would stop making them or destroy them if doing so would help us. Imagine an entity that found metal clips useful in the process of building machines that make plastic clips, but who ultimately only valued plastic clips and would destroy the metal if doing so helped it.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 28 May 2010 07:07:29PM 0 points [-]

I suspect that you make other things besides paperclips - parts for other Clippy instances, for example. Does that imply that you'd consider it acceptable to be forced by a stronger AI into producing only Clippy-parts that would never be assembled into paperclip-producing Clippy-instances?

The paperclips that we produce are produced because we find paperclips instrumentally useful, as you find Clippy-parts instrumentally useful.