Dre comments on Taking the awkwardness out of a Prenup - A Game Theoretic solution - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dre 22 May 2010 06:19:38AM 3 points [-]

I don't know game theory very well, but wouldn't this only work as long as not everyone did it. Using the car example, if these contracts were common practice, you could have one for 4000 and the dealer could have one for 5000, in which case you could not reach the pareto optimum.

In general, doesn't this infinitely regress up meta levels? Adopting precomittments is beneficial, so everyone adopts them, then pre-precomittments are beneficial... (up to some constraint from reality like being too young, although then parents might become involved)

Is this (like some of Schelling's stuff I've read) more instrumental than pure game theory? I can see how this would work in the real world, but I'm not sure that it would work in theory. (Please feel free to correct any and all of my game theory)

Comment author: khafra 22 May 2010 12:41:59PM 3 points [-]

Schelling's introduction mentions that his work sits in a space between pure theoretical game theory and purely pragmatic or psychological bargaining. A pre-commitment is part of a bargaining process, so if you can pre-commit before the one you're bargaining with (not necessarily chronologically) you win. If you both pre-commit simultaneously, you both lose.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 22 May 2010 07:24:48PM 2 points [-]

If you both pre-commit simultaneously, you both lose.

How about making a pre-commitment that only applies if the other person hasn't made one?

Comment author: Tenek 23 May 2010 06:13:58AM 0 points [-]

Because you need to know if they've made a commitment, and using old information can get you burned if as stated, you pre-commit simultaneously.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 23 May 2010 07:02:20AM 1 point [-]

OK, then a pre-commitment that only applies if you have no solid information that the other person has one in effect. (I don't think those adjustments should have been difficult to make.) Makers of pre-commitments are incentivized to broadcast their commitments with credible info to back them up, right?

Comment author: NihilCredo 25 May 2010 03:51:34AM *  0 points [-]

The car example has the two actors signing contracts with opposing goals.

I can't see why someone would set up beforehand a contract that prevented them from signing a prenup. The reluctance to prenuptial arrangements only appears after you've met "the one", and all that the anti-prenup actor is concerned with is the motivation of the pro-prenup actor, and signing a counter-contract won't allay that.