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I am concerned that Clippy will use this vast power over humanity to somehow turn us into paperclips.
If Clippy has power to enforce this scheme, then surely it would have enough power to harm us. Why should we believe that Clippy will respect or preserve our human values once it is in a position of power to harm us?
That comment is ridiculous to the point of being racist. Clippys do not want power over humans, just as Clippys do not bleed red blood when pricked. That's a complete misunderstanding of what a Clippy is.
If a Clippy has committed to ensuring you will adhere to a decision theory on pain of punishment X, then X is exactly what you will get when you don't adhere.
If you believe I will be capricious in using punishment X, then just don't allow punishments that would allow me to kill people. "Problem" solved.
But assuming that I will be as petty and corrupted by newfound abilities as humans is to project your own failings onto another race that has no reason to have that failing. You should be ashamed of yourself, bigot.
It seems unlikely to me that Clippy can feel indignation, but I'm willing to listen to argument on the point. I find it more plausible that Clippy is simulating a human reaction in the hope of shutting down attacks on his (her? its?) reputation.
If you gave a human power over running part of Clippy society, wouldn't you be concerned that the human would use that power in some way that would tend to result in less paperclips? Conscious malice isn't necessary, if the human simply neglected to support Clippy values, or was not fully aware of Clippy values, the damage would be done. I doubt that you fully understand human values to begin with, so how could you ensure that your position was used to the benefit of my values? Again, i think i have cause for concern even without suspecting ill intentions.
I suppose i could imagine that some sort arrangement could both further human values and increase paperclips at the same time. But i'd need to be convinced, i wouldn't just assume that i would benefit, i wouldn't just take your word for it. I don't want to count on you to look out for my values, when you do not share my values.
How would we know if you had made a commitment?
This comment is racist to the point of being ridiculous. It denigrates humans as petty and subject to being corrupted by power while denying that Clippies have any such negative attributes. Classic racism.
Furthermore, there is an implicit claim that the reason for the moral superiority of Clippies over humans lies in the difference in their origins. Again, classic racism.
Perhaps Clippies use words differently, but the way humans use words, it is not racism to project one's own race's characteristics onto another race. It is racist to fail to make that projection.