radical_negative_one comments on To signal effectively, use a non-human, non-stoppable enforcer - Less Wrong

31 Post author: Clippy 22 May 2010 10:03PM

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Comment author: Clippy 23 May 2010 12:34:10AM *  7 points [-]

That comment is ridiculous to the point of being racist. Clippys do not want power over humans, just as Clippys do not bleed red blood when pricked. That's a complete misunderstanding of what a Clippy is.

If a Clippy has committed to ensuring you will adhere to a decision theory on pain of punishment X, then X is exactly what you will get when you don't adhere.

If you believe I will be capricious in using punishment X, then just don't allow punishments that would allow me to kill people. "Problem" solved.

But assuming that I will be as petty and corrupted by newfound abilities as humans is to project your own failings onto another race that has no reason to have that failing. You should be ashamed of yourself, bigot.

Comment author: radical_negative_one 23 May 2010 12:57:45AM 8 points [-]

If you gave a human power over running part of Clippy society, wouldn't you be concerned that the human would use that power in some way that would tend to result in less paperclips? Conscious malice isn't necessary, if the human simply neglected to support Clippy values, or was not fully aware of Clippy values, the damage would be done. I doubt that you fully understand human values to begin with, so how could you ensure that your position was used to the benefit of my values? Again, i think i have cause for concern even without suspecting ill intentions.

I suppose i could imagine that some sort arrangement could both further human values and increase paperclips at the same time. But i'd need to be convinced, i wouldn't just assume that i would benefit, i wouldn't just take your word for it. I don't want to count on you to look out for my values, when you do not share my values.