RobinZ comments on On Enjoying Disagreeable Company - Less Wrong

49 Post author: Alicorn 26 May 2010 01:47AM

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Comment author: RobinZ 26 May 2010 03:47:17PM 3 points [-]

I think jimrandomh may be mistaken in selecting "neurotypical" as the relevant criterion - the correlated criterion of "well-socialized" may be nearer the mark.

Comment author: SilasBarta 26 May 2010 04:01:00PM *  1 point [-]

Good point; that terminology would do a better job of hiding the dissonance in scolding me for my autistic errors, even as Alicorn alone gets the sympathy for being non-NT. Make sure to tell Jim!

Comment author: RobinZ 26 May 2010 04:06:49PM 3 points [-]

"Well-socialized", like "real number", is a perniciously misleading term.

Comment author: Blueberry 26 May 2010 10:35:45PM 0 points [-]

Why?

Comment author: RobinZ 27 May 2010 03:29:38AM 2 points [-]

Because society is not particularly well optimized, the implication of goodness in the modifier "well" is deceptive - a well-socialized person is quite likely to be tribalistic and repressed, for example.

Comment author: Blueberry 27 May 2010 03:40:10AM 0 points [-]

a well-socialized person is quite likely to be tribalistic and repressed

They are? I would expect a well-socialized person to be secure and comfortable and friendly.

Comment author: aleksiL 28 May 2010 06:21:40AM *  2 points [-]

Sounds like your definition of "well-socialized" is closer to "well-adjusted" than RobinZ's.

As I understand them, skill in navigating social situations, epistemic rationality and psychological well-being are all separate features. They do seem to correlate, but the causal influences are not obvious.

ETA: Depends a lot on the standard you use, too. RobinZ is probably correct if you look at the upper quartile but less so for the 99th percentile.

Comment author: RobinZ 28 May 2010 02:41:34PM 0 points [-]

As an aside, I would say that jimrandomh's point relies upon describing a substantial population - more like the set of those above the upper quartile than those above the 99th percentile.

Comment author: RobinZ 27 May 2010 03:57:45AM 1 point [-]

I don't know nearly enough to defend my original stance. Consider me confused.