AlexMennen comments on Virtue Ethics for Consequentialists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AlexMennen 07 June 2010 01:09:27AM *  0 points [-]

I'm a little confused here. Are you saying that Virtue ethics = consequentialism + TDT? I always figured consequentialists were allowed to use TDT. Or are you saying that virtue ethics, deontology, and consequentialism are all equivalent, but that virtue ethics is the best way for humans to interpret ethics? If so, I still do not see why. Consequentialism seems nice and simple to me. Or is it something else?

it gets easy to forget that we're hyperbolic discounters: not anything resembling sane. Humans are not inherently expected utility maximizers, they're bounded agents with little capacity for reflection.

This is false. We are hyperbolic discounters, but there is no rule stating that we must allocate the same potential utility for every possible time period.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 09 June 2010 07:18:43PM 3 points [-]

Hyperbolic discounting is insane because it's dynamically inconsistent (the way humans do it; you could have a dynamically consistent hyperbolic discount rate from a non-indexically-defined zero time, but that's not what's usually meant), not because it's discounting.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 09 June 2010 07:16:27PM 1 point [-]

I think he's saying a cached set of ethical judgements is a virtue ethics. This could apply equally well with 'deontological' substituted everywhere for 'virtue'.