gwern comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 04 July 2010 01:01:37AM 4 points [-]

Which leads me to think about the people who say that if they found they were living in a simulation, they'd try to get out. Unless the simulation is very similar to the substrate, would it be possible to get out while remaining yourself in any sense?

Sure. Escape into another simulation.

More seriously, obviously it's not guaranteed that an organism in a simulation can just create a copy in the outside world. How would a Game of Life organism, made out of glider guns and flashers and whatnot, made an atom-based form of itself?

What it could do is create something isomorphic. Whether this is possible is pretty much the same question as whether humans can make uploads. (Which is the inverse, actually - going from 'reality' to 'simulation'.)

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 July 2010 02:50:35AM 4 points [-]

Alternatively, you keep living in your simulation, but you get enough of a handle on the substrate that you can make changes in your simulation, protect it, or duplicate it.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 July 2010 02:51:10AM 2 points [-]

More seriously, obviously it's not guaranteed that an organism in a simulation can just create a copy in the outside world. How would a Game of Life organism, made out of glider guns and flashers and whatnot, made an atom-based form of itself?

Absolutely. It'll just take a superintelligence and some nano-tech.

Comment author: NihilCredo 14 July 2010 10:19:07PM 0 points [-]

"A wizard will do it", even-more-nerdy version.