AlephNeil comments on This is your brain on ambiguity - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SilasBarta 28 May 2010 04:47:42PM *  16 points [-]

Scattered comments:

1) It's not that some illusions give hints as to how human cognition works; all of them do, because that's what makes it an illusion: a deviation from accuracy that is used as a usually-harmless shortcut.

2) All inference, not just perception, is based on incomplete information. MacKay says (quoting someone far before him), "To make inferences, you must make assumptions."

3) I don't think it's most accurate to say that the brain prefers wrong to uncertain. Rather, it prefers sometimes-wrong to always-uncertain. The heuristics it uses will usually be right, giving the benefit of being able to make use of greater (assumed) knowledge of a scene, at the cost of being wrong in a few rare cases. This is better than remaining non-committal, such as what would result from only using an Occamian heuristic.

4) The spinning dancer illusion doesn't work because of the detail; it works because it strips away all of the hints your brain normally uses to disambiguate a scene (such as light gradients, relative sizes, etc.)

5) Here's another great multi-stable perception illusion -- with something like 6 possible perceptions.

6) Great article! I'm also writing one about the non-obvious constraints that general intelligence must adhere to.

ETA: So I guess you guys want more of this kind of comment and less of the other?

Comment author: AlephNeil 29 May 2010 01:36:05PM 1 point [-]

I agree with most of your points, but this stood out:

All inference, not just perception, is based on incomplete information.

There's a very important difference between (i) perceiving the black shape as a dancer spinning on her right foot and (ii) deducing that if Socrates is a man, and all men are mortal then Socrates is mortal.

In case (i) the 'premises' (i.e. the animation) didn't contain sufficient information to determine that the conclusion was correct. In case (ii) the premises are sufficient.