Houshalter comments on Diseased thinking: dissolving questions about disease - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Houshalter 31 May 2010 06:57:41PM 0 points [-]

We do our best not to put innocent people in prison. Actually, I should have been more clear: We try to put all criminals in jail, but not innocent people. And there's something called reasonable doubt.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 June 2010 05:50:13AM 7 points [-]

I don't think we do our best not to put innocent people in prison. I think we make some efforts to avoid it, but they're rather half-hearted.

For example, consider government resistance to DNA testing for prisoners. Admittedly, this is about keeping people in prison rather than putting them there in the first place, but I think it's an equivalent issue, and I assume the major reason for resisting DNA testing is not wanting to find out that the initial reasons for imprisoning people were inadequate.

Also, there's plea bargaining, which I think adds up to saying that we'd rather put people into prison without making the effort to find out whether they're guilty.

Comment author: Houshalter 02 June 2010 01:09:50PM -2 points [-]

What do you mean? They did do DNA testing and discovered that dozens of people in prisons actually were innocent.

Also, there's plea bargaining, which I think adds up to saying that we'd rather put people into prison without making the effort to find out whether they're guilty.

Thats to make sure that if someone actually is innocent and more evidence comes up later, they can get out rather then rot away for the rest of their lives. Its a good thing.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 June 2010 10:46:16PM 5 points [-]

Everything I've read about DNA testing for prisoners has said that it was difficult for them to get the testing done. In some cases, they had to pay for it themselves.

Plea bargaining isn't just for life sentences.

I'm not sure you understand what plea bargaining is-- it means that a suspect accepts a shorter sentence for a lesser accusation in exchange for not taking the risk of getting convicted of a more serious crime at a trial.