Thomas comments on Rationality quotes: June 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Thomas 01 June 2010 06:45:39PM 3 points [-]

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Arthur Conan Doyle

Comment author: khafra 02 June 2010 03:59:31PM 23 points [-]

I'm embarassed to bring this up again, because I seem to quote steven0461 too often--but, in something close to his words; "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains is likely more improbable than an error in one of your impossibility proofs."

Comment author: orangecat 02 June 2010 12:29:45AM *  9 points [-]

I reject that entirely," said Dirk, sharply. "The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks. How often have you been presented with an apparently rational explanation of something which works in all respects other than one, which is just that it is hopelessly improbable? Your instinct is to say, `Yes, but he or she simply wouldn't do that.'"

Douglas Adams

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 01 June 2010 08:16:43PM 14 points [-]

...Or you've just missed something. If all you're left with is improbable you notice that you are confused. I've always thought that quote was off.

Then again, Sherlock never did miss anything.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 08 August 2010 11:35:16AM 3 points [-]

I also just noticed a Sherlock quote with exactly this meaning:

When a fact appears to be opposed to a long train of deductions, it invariably proves to be capable of bearing some other interpretation.

Sherlock's a more rounded rationalist than he's given credit for.

Comment author: gwern 02 June 2010 05:57:38PM 2 points [-]

Then again, Sherlock never did miss anything.

To the contrary, he was roundly defeated on at least one occasion.

Comment author: Thomas 02 June 2010 12:04:26PM 0 points [-]

I am sorry gentlemen, but this quote of Holmes is the very essence of rationalism as I see it.

Comment author: [deleted] 01 June 2010 11:08:29PM 4 points [-]

There is no evidence that is so strong that it will justify a statement no matter how improbable you initially considered it. Thus, as Oscar points out, this quote is off.

Comment author: SilasBarta 01 June 2010 06:54:05PM 4 points [-]

In Bayes/Pearl terminology, knowledge of an effect destroys the causes' independence (d-connects them), and ruling out a cause shifts probability onto the remaining causes.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 03 June 2010 06:22:10PM 1 point [-]

How does a Bayesian rule out a cause?

Comment author: D_Alex 07 June 2010 04:30:26AM 1 point [-]

As a rationality quote, "... must contain the truth" would have been better.