jimrandomh comments on So you say you're an altruist... - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jimrandomh 13 March 2009 12:42:53AM 7 points [-]

The linked article presents a situation where the ten people you could save were chosen at random by a king. However, the people who you could save by giving to food aid charities are not random. They are specifically those who for some reason cannot produce enough to feed themselves. A few hundred years ago, feeding them would have prevented deaths in the short term, but caused an equal or greater number of deaths a generation later due to excess population. It also eliminates selection effects which would make future generations more productive. It may be possible to feed everyone today, but our moral instinct has had very little time to adjust to that fact, and it's still difficult to ensure our efforts aren't counterproductive. A lot of aid ends up being claimed by warlords and used against the people we want to help.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 13 March 2009 01:13:42AM *  7 points [-]

Yes, but there are ways to save people for not very much money. See http://givewell.net/psi

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 March 2009 01:20:36AM 1 point [-]

Anna or Carl or Vassar: was Givewell one of the good guys or one of the bad guys?

Comment author: AnnaSalamon 13 March 2009 01:33:30AM *  8 points [-]

One of the good guys. Givewell isn't a specific charity; it's a serious attempt to research and publicize means of effective giving, in the sense of figuring out how to get the most {lives saved / education / other specific goals} per dollar.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 August 2010 05:59:56AM 3 points [-]

They are specifically those who for some reason cannot produce enough to feed themselves.

They may be people who produce enough to feed themselves, but who can't keep it, whether it's because they don't have the facilities to preserve what they make from rot and insects, or because they live in a society where much of the value they create is likely to be stolen.