SilasBarta comments on Bayes' Theorem Illustrated (My Way) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SilasBarta 04 June 2010 04:11:31PM 2 points [-]

Anyone know why I can only post comments every 8 minutes? Is the bandwidth really that bad?

You face limits on your rate of posting if you're at or below 0 karma, which seems to be the case for you. How you got modded down so much, I'm not so sure of.

Comment author: thomblake 04 June 2010 04:22:19PM 3 points [-]

How you got modded down so much, I'm not so sure of.

Bold, unjustified political claims. Bold, unjustified claims that go against consensus. Bad spelling/grammar. Also a Christian, but those comments don't seem to be negative karma.

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 04 June 2010 07:45:48PM *  7 points [-]

I can attest the being Christian itself does not seem to make a negative difference. :D

Comment author: Blueberry 04 June 2010 08:56:52PM 1 point [-]

Upvoted. That took me a minute to get.

Comment author: SilasBarta 04 June 2010 04:27:09PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, I hadn't been following Houshalter very closely, and the few that I did see weren't about politics, and seemed at least somewhat reasonable. (Maybe I should have checked the posting history, but I was just saying I'm not sure, not that the opposite would be preferable.)

Comment author: Houshalter 04 June 2010 06:03:06PM *  -2 points [-]

Bold, unjustified political claims.

What bold unjustified political claims? You do realise that every other person on this site I've met so far has some kind of extreme political view. I thought I was kind of reasonable.

Bold, unjustified claims that go against consensus.

In other words, I disagreed with you. I always look for the reasons to doubt something or believe in something else before I just "go along with it".

Bad spelling/grammar.

What's wrong with my spelling/grammar? I double check everything before I post it!

Also a Christian

You're persecuting me because of my religion!?

Whatever. I'll post again in 8 minutes I guess.

Comment author: Alicorn 04 June 2010 06:07:37PM *  7 points [-]

Whats wrong with my spelling/grammar? I double check everything before I post it!

In this comment:

Whats -> What's

Your -> You're

Also, arguably a missing comma before "I guess".

Comment author: thomblake 04 June 2010 06:27:04PM 4 points [-]

What bold unjustified political claims? You do realise that every other person on this site I've met so far has some kind of extreme political view. I thought I was kind of reasonable.

Emphasis on 'unjustified'. Example. This sounds awfully flippant and sure of yourself - "This system wouldn't work at all". Why do you suppose so many people, including professional political scientists / political philosophers / philosophers of law think that it would work? Do you have an amazing insight that they're all missing? Sure, there are people with many different positions on this issue, but unless you're actually going to join the debate and give solid reasons, you weren't really contributing anything with this comment.

Also, comments on political issues are discouraged, as politics is the mind-killer. Unless you're really sure your political comment is appropriate, hold off on posting it. And if you're really sure your political comment is too important not to post, you should check to make sure you're being rational, as that's a good sign you're not.

In other words, I disagreed with you. I always look for the reasons to doubt something or believe in something else before I just "go along with it".

Again, emphasis on 'unjustified'. If people here believe something, there are usually very good reasons for it. Going against that without at least attempting a justification is not recommended. Here are hundreds of people who have spent years trying to understand how to, in general, be correct about things, and they have managed to reach agreement on some issues. You should be shaken by that, unless you know precisely where they've all gone wrong, and in that case you should say so. If you're right, they'll all change their minds.

Also a Christian

Your[sic] persecuting me because of my religion!?

You've indicated you have false beliefs. That is a point against you. Also if you think the world is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, or 2+2=3, and don't manage to fix that when someone tells you you're wrong, rationalists will have a lower opinion of you. If you manage to convince them that 2+2=3, then you win back more points than you've lost, but it's probably not worth the try.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 04 June 2010 06:24:06PM *  4 points [-]

Bold, unjustified claims that go against consensus.

In other words, I disagreed with you. I always look for the reasons to doubt something or believe in something else before I just "go along with it".

No. In other words, you've made claims that assume statements against consensus, often without even realizing it or giving any justification when you do so. As I already explained to you, the general approach at LW has been hashed out quite a bit. Some people (such as myself) disagree with a fair bit. For example, I'm much closer to being a traditional rationalist than a Bayesian rationalist and I also assign a very low probability to a Singularity-type event. But I'm aware enough to know when I'm operating under non-consensus views so I'm careful to be explicit about what those views are and if necessary, note why I have them. I'm not the only such example. Alicorn for example (who also replied to this post) has views on morality that are a distinct minority in LW, but Alicorn is careful whenever these come up to reason carefully and make her premises explicit. Thus, the comments are far more likely to be voted up than down.

Your persecuting me because of my religion!?

Well, for the people complaining about grammar: "Your" -> "You're"

But no, you've only mentioned your religious views twice I think, and once in passing. The votes down there were I'm pretty sure because your personal religious viewpoint was utterly besides the point being made about the general LW consensus.

Comment author: Blueberry 04 June 2010 08:57:40PM 1 point [-]

How you got modded down so much, I'm not so sure of.

I'm guessing that confusing "too" and "to", and "its" and "it's", contributed.