TheOtherDave comments on Hacking the CEV for Fun and Profit - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Blueberry 04 June 2010 03:49:32PM 1 point [-]

Is there a biological tech level you're expecting when building an FAI becomes possible?

I don't know. We don't actually need any technology other than Python and vi. ;) But it's possible uploads, cloning, genetic engineering, and so forth will be common then.

What do you mean by "naturally born"? Are artificial wombs a problem?

Yes, just to be safe, we should avoid anyone born through IVF, for instance, or whose birth was created or assisted in a lab, or who experienced any genetic modification. I'm not sure exactly where to draw the line: fertility drugs might be ok. I meant anyone conceived through normal intercourse without any technological intervention. Such people can be added in later if the CEV of the others wants them added.

It's conceivable that children have important input for what children need that adults have for the most part forgotten.

Yes, this is a really good point, but CEV adds in what we would add in if we knew more and remembered more.

Comment author: thomblake 04 June 2010 04:14:33PM 9 points [-]

What do you mean by "naturally born"? Are artificial wombs a problem?

Yes, just to be safe, we should avoid anyone born through IVF, for instance, or whose birth was created or assisted in a lab, or who experienced any genetic modification. I'm not sure exactly where to draw the line: fertility drugs might be ok. I meant anyone conceived through normal intercourse without any technological intervention

That's terrible. You're letting in people who are mutated in all sorts of ways through stupid, random, 'natural' processes, but not those who have the power of human intelligence overriding the choices of the blind idiot god. If the extropians/transhumanists make any headway with germline genetic engineering, I want those people in charge.