Vladimir_Nesov comments on Hacking the CEV for Fun and Profit - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 05 June 2010 10:06:55PM *  6 points [-]

torekp!CEV: "Is it fair to other people that Dr. Evil becomes the supreme ruler of the universe?"
Dr. Evil clone #574,837,904,521: "Yes, it is. As an actually evil person, I honestly believe it."

Comment author: D_Alex 06 June 2010 05:02:08AM -2 points [-]

And right there is the reason why the plan would not work...!

The wishes of the evil clones would not converge on any particular Dr. Evil. You'd get a trillion separate little volitions, which would be outweighed by the COHERENT volition of the remaining 1%.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 06 June 2010 05:24:03AM 2 points [-]

That might be true if Dr. Evil's goal is to rule the world. But if Dr. Evil's goals are either a) for the world to be ruled by a Dr. Evil or b) to destroy the world, then this is still a problem. Both of those seem like much less likely failure modes more out of something from a comic book or the like (the fact that we are calling this fellow Dr. Evil doesn't help matters) but it does suggest that there are serious general failures of the CEV protocol.

Comment author: stcredzero 07 June 2010 12:08:18AM 2 points [-]

Both of those seem like much less likely failure modes more out of something from a comic book or the like (the fact that we are calling this fellow Dr. Evil doesn't help matters)

It could be worse: The reason why there are only two Sith, a master and apprentice, is because The Force can be used to visualize the CEV of a particular group, and The Sith have mastered this and determined that 2 is the largest reliably stable population.