Summing up the only counterhacks presented, not including deeper discussions of the other issues people had with CEV.

• Taking into account only variances from one mind to another, so that very similar minds cluster and their volition is taken into account, but not given any great preference. running into problem - normal human majorities are also made into minorities.

• Taking into account cycle time of humans

• Taking into account unique experiences weighted by hours of unique experience

• Doing CEV on possible human minds, instead of present human minds ** running into the problem, what is the boundary of human space?

• Establishing the protocols of what constitutes a valid and desirable extrapolation from a small sub group and only then unleashing the CEV to go fetch volition from the entire humanity. ** running into problem - difficult to distinguish means and methods of valid extrapolation from the actual morals of the initial small sub group.

Am I comprehensive enough or did i miss any other significant counterhack in the thread?