NancyLebovitz comments on What should I have for dinner? (A case study in decision making) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ObliqueFault 12 August 2010 08:41:00PM 0 points [-]

Caloric expenditure is not strictly a function of behavior. Holding all else constant, including amount of exercise, reducing caloric intake will also reduce expenditure.

I know, this is why when people stop dieting and return to their original level of consumption, they sometimes end up heavier than before, as Janet mentioned. It's usually better to increase exercise rather than decrease calorie intake, but this thread is about diet, so I haven't really gone into that.

Sometimes it will reduce it by more than the reduction in intake.

Not to say it can't, but I've never heard of this happening. Reference, please?

Once again, it seems I've stated my position badly. I really shouldn't have used the word "simple" in my opening post. Nothing in biology is simple.

I'm not trying to say you can cut food willy-nilly and still be healthy. I'm not trying to use energy balance as a curiosity stopper. I'm trying to use it to combat claims that you can eat as much "good" food as you want as long as you avoid "bad" food.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 August 2010 11:17:31PM 0 points [-]

The last I heard, losing weight tends to increase appetite, not lower metabolism.

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 13 August 2010 09:31:08PM 1 point [-]

Starving yourself does reduce calories burned due to spontaneous fidgety behavior (are you really relaxed and holding still while you're at the computer?), as well as metabolic processes (even on a bodyweight-relative basis), by which I mean whatever energy is expended outside gross motion.

However, most people using this phenomena as an excuse are conveniently overestimating its magnitude (and/or underestimating their caloric intake). This helps them combat the stigma of moral weakness (often wrongly) associated with being fat.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 August 2010 09:33:47PM 0 points [-]

I was talking about theories that starvation lowers basal metabolism, even after food is more available.