Nisan comments on Open Thread June 2010, Part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nisan 08 June 2010 08:11:27PM 2 points [-]

Right, and furthermore, a rational consequentialist makes those moral decisions which lead to the best outcomes, averaged over all possible worlds where the agent has the same epistemic state. Consequentialists and deontologists will occasionally screw things up, and this is unavoidable; but consequentialists are better on average at making the world a better place.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 08 June 2010 08:16:36PM 5 points [-]

consequentialists are better on average at making the world a better place.

That's an argument that only appeals to the consequentalist.

Comment author: Nisan 08 June 2010 08:47:45PM 1 point [-]

Of course. I am only arguing that consequentialists want to be consequentialists, despite cousin_it's scenario #6.

Comment author: thomblake 08 June 2010 09:08:46PM 0 points [-]

That's an argument that only appeals to the consequentalist.

I'm not sure that's true. Forms of deontology will usually have some sort of theory of value that allows for a 'better world', though it's usually tied up with weird metaphysical views that don't jive well with consequentialism.