Tyrrell_McAllister comments on UDT agents as deontologists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 10 June 2010 03:50:26AM *  1 point [-]

I'm not sure what you intended to say by that, but it sounds like "UDT agent will make the wrong decision",

No, that is not at all what I meant. That interpretation never occurred to me. I meant that the UDT agent cannot possibly give up the utility that Omega asks for in the previous sentence. Now that I understood how you misunderstood that part, I will edit it.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 10 June 2010 10:08:26AM 0 points [-]

Well, isn't it a good thing that UDT won't give up utility to Omega? You can't take away utility on one side of the coin, and return it on the other, utility is global.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 10 June 2010 01:58:59PM *  1 point [-]

Well, isn't it a good thing that UDT won't give up utility to Omega?

Yes, of course it is. I'm afraid that I don't yet understand why you thought that I suggest otherwise.

You can't take away utility on one side of the coin, and return it on the other, utility is global.

Yes, that is why I said that the agent couldn't possibly satisfy Omega's request to give it utility.

You are attacking a position that I don't hold. But I'm not sure what position you're thinking of, so I don't know how to address the misunderstanding. You haven't made any claim that I disagree with in response to that paragraph.