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Comment author: taryneast 07 April 2011 12:17:58PM *  2 points [-]

jujitsu is an empty-handed martial art of the Koryu (or traditional) school. (according to wikipedia) :)

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 08 April 2011 12:28:41AM 1 point [-]

Yes, jiujitsu is an exception. I learned that sometime in the past two years, but failed to update my comment ;-)

The precise statement is that samurai had a monopoly on force and it was illegal for others to learn martial arts. Thus extant feudal Japanese martial arts were for samurai. Sometimes samurai were unarmed, hence jiujitsu, though it assumes both combatants are heavily armored.

What I really meant in my comment was that karate was imported around the end of the shogonate and that judo and aikido were invented around 1900. However, they weren't invented from scratch, but adapted from feudal jiujitsu. They probably have as much claim to that tradition as brand-name jiujitsu. In any event, jiujitsu probably wasn't static or monolithic in 1900, either.