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Comment author: Blueberry 19 June 2010 04:45:36PM 0 points [-]

Are centrophenoxine and choline bitartrate also available on those sites? Do you buy them by themselves? And how much do you take?

I already have some B complex vitamins that contain choline bitartrate (the label says each pill contains 40 mg of choline). Will this be enough, or are you talking about much larger amounts?

Thanks for all the information!

Comment author: gwern 19 June 2010 06:36:35PM 2 points [-]

Choline usually should be taken at a 0.5:1 or 1:1 ratio. Given that you'll be taking on the order of a gram of the -racetams (certainly with piracetam), 40mg of choline is laughably little - you want something more like 10x that.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 June 2010 05:05:32PM 1 point [-]

Are centrophenoxine and choline bitartrate also available on those sites? Do you buy them by themselves? And how much do you take?

Any site that sells aniracetam will sell at least choline bitartrate. You usually buy them by themselves. I get mine in powder form and create the capsules myself. I create capsules with a controlled ratio of piracetam, aniracetam and centrophnisine then vary how many I take and how often as appropriate.

If taking just ani and centro a suitable, fairly conservative dose would be 500mg Ani + 250mg centro twice daily.

Not that with racetams the full effect can be expected after about two weeks.