wedrifid comments on Open Thread June 2010, Part 4 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kevin 19 June 2010 06:06:09AM *  5 points [-]

Strange occurrence in US South Carolina Democratic primary.

The only explanation, Mr. Rawl’s representatives told the committee, was faulty voting machines — not chance, name order on the ballot, or Republicans crossing over to vote for the weaker Democrat. With testimony dominated by talk of standard variances, preference theories and voting machine software, the hearing took on the spirit of a political science seminar.

The Washington Post profiled Alvin Greene last week

10 minute video interview with Greene

What happened here?

Wikipedia has a list of possible explanations.

Fivethirtyeight lists possible explanations and analysis.

Rawl and co presented five hours of testimony that the results could only be attributed to a problem with the voting machines.

What is your probability estimate for Alvin Greene's win in this election being legitimate (Greene getting lucky as a result of aggregate voter intent+indifference+confusion, as opposed to voting machine malfunction or some sort of active conspiracy)? What evidence do you need in order to update your estimate?

Comment author: wedrifid 19 June 2010 11:18:18AM 2 points [-]

Probability that this person would have a worse influence on the senate than a more standard politician: 5%.

Comment author: Kevin 19 June 2010 02:38:05PM 0 points [-]

I would give it lower than that, US Senators have surprisingly little power.

Comment author: AlexMennen 19 June 2010 03:41:29PM 1 point [-]

That is not important when considering the probability that Alvin Greene would have a worse influence on the Senate than the average politician if he got elected. It is only important when considering the probability that he would have a much worse influence on the Senate than average.

Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 19 June 2010 02:45:33PM 0 points [-]

US Senators have surprisingly little power.

???

I mean, in the sense that the US government is like a massive Ouija board that is not really controlled by anyone, then sure. But the senators seem to have a particularly heavy hand on the board.

Comment author: Kevin 19 June 2010 02:50:00PM 0 points [-]

Sorry, I meant "influence", not "power".

Comment author: Larks 19 June 2010 11:49:05AM 0 points [-]

Conditional on their winning the election, presumably.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 June 2010 01:13:20PM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure that is technically necessary given the precise phrasing.

Comment author: Larks 19 June 2010 03:18:26PM 0 points [-]

Because, unless he is a politician, the sentence fails to make sense, because 'more standard politician' requires him to be one? If so, I think being selected as a candidate makes you a politician.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 June 2010 04:26:22PM 0 points [-]

It seems to make sense without any fancy interpretation.