wedrifid comments on Open Thread June 2010, Part 4 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kevin 19 June 2010 06:06:09AM *  5 points [-]

Strange occurrence in US South Carolina Democratic primary.

The only explanation, Mr. Rawl’s representatives told the committee, was faulty voting machines — not chance, name order on the ballot, or Republicans crossing over to vote for the weaker Democrat. With testimony dominated by talk of standard variances, preference theories and voting machine software, the hearing took on the spirit of a political science seminar.

The Washington Post profiled Alvin Greene last week

10 minute video interview with Greene

What happened here?

Wikipedia has a list of possible explanations.

Fivethirtyeight lists possible explanations and analysis.

Rawl and co presented five hours of testimony that the results could only be attributed to a problem with the voting machines.

What is your probability estimate for Alvin Greene's win in this election being legitimate (Greene getting lucky as a result of aggregate voter intent+indifference+confusion, as opposed to voting machine malfunction or some sort of active conspiracy)? What evidence do you need in order to update your estimate?

Comment author: wedrifid 19 June 2010 04:46:07PM 1 point [-]

What evidence do you need in order to update your estimate?

The next election being won by a ficus would boost my estimate. Or, you know, something else ridiculous like an action hero actor.

Comment author: LucasSloan 20 June 2010 03:20:59AM *  2 points [-]

an action hero actor.

Why is this at all ridiculous? Is there any reason to believe Arnold Schwarzenegger has done a significantly worse job than other governors, controlling for ability of the legislature to agree on anything and the health of the economy?

Comment author: wedrifid 20 June 2010 03:41:16AM *  3 points [-]

Why is this at all ridiculous?

It merely serves to illustrate what politics is really about. It certainly isn't about voting for people who are the best suited for making and implementing the decisions that are best for the country, planet or species. I actually would have voted for him unless he had a particularly remarkable opponent. All else being equal I take a contribution in another field that is popular and that I appreciate is a more important signal to me than success as a pure courtier. It is unfortunate that I do not have reason to consider consider political popularity as a stronger signal of country-leading competence than creating 'kindergarten cop'.

Is there any reason to believe Arnold Schwarzenegger has done a significantly poorer job than other governors, controlling for ability of the legislature to agree on anything and the health of the economy?

I've already assigned a low probability to Alvin being at all worse than the alternatives. I expect Arnold would be 'even' better.

(Oh, and I do think that one liner is sub par. It would be better to stick to actual ridiculous rather than superficially ridiculous.)