NancyLebovitz comments on Open Thread June 2010, Part 4 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 27 June 2010 01:25:47PM 2 points [-]

What if your hero asks to be made omniscient, including the capacity to still be able to think well in the face of all that knowledge?

Throw in omnibenevolence if you like, but I think you get some contradictions if you ask omnipotence. Either that, or you and Omega coalesce.

How could you test your omniscience to be sure it's the real thing?

Comment author: Alexandros 27 June 2010 03:33:41PM 0 points [-]

Asking to modify yourself may be a useful strategy, (or maybe not, as you note) but it's not something that's available to philosophers trying to prove the existence of a god. As far as we know that is :)

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 27 June 2010 10:46:27PM 0 points [-]

It's possible that looking at how you'd test something which claims to be omniscience would give some pointers to finding unknown unknowns and unknown knowns.

Comment author: Alexandros 30 June 2010 05:06:20PM 0 points [-]

Or also show you if there are unknowable unknowns?

Comment author: wedrifid 30 June 2010 05:16:29PM 1 point [-]

An unknowable unknown: I shot a rocket across the cosmic horizon. On the rocket was a qGrenade set to detonate on a timer. Did my Schrödinger's rocket explode when the timer went off in my Everett branch?

Comment author: RobinZ 02 July 2010 04:03:40AM 0 points [-]

I don't see that decoherence would occur in that case.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 30 June 2010 11:18:45PM 0 points [-]

This once again explains why "reality" is a largely meaningless concept.

Comment author: wedrifid 01 July 2010 12:19:18AM 0 points [-]

Wow. I maybe understand where you are alluding to, but I'm not sure I'm reverse engineering the thoughts right. Explain for me?

Comment author: WrongBot 01 July 2010 01:21:49AM -1 points [-]

Whether or not it's meaningful, it's certainly useful, especially by Phillip K. Dick's definition: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 June 2010 07:38:26PM 0 points [-]

I'm pretty sure unknowability would have to be proven rather than shown.