cousin_it comments on Open Thread June 2010, Part 4 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cousin_it 07 July 2010 10:27:09PM *  1 point [-]

Then let's try this. Hypothesis 1 says the sequence will consist of only H repeated forever. Hypothesis 2 says the sequence will be HTTTHHTHTHTTTT* repeated forever, where the * can take different values on each repetition. The second hypothesis is harder to locate but describes an infinite number of possible worlds :-)

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Comment author: WrongBot 08 July 2010 01:48:42AM 0 points [-]

The problem with this counterexample is that you can't actually repeat something forever.

Even taking the case where we repeat each sequence 1000 times, which seems like it should be similar, you'll end up with 1000 coin flips and 15000 coin flips for Hypothesis 1 and Hypothesis 2, respectively. So the odds of being in a world where Hypothesis 1 is true are 1 in 2^1000, but the odds of being in a world where Hypothesis 2 is true are 1 in 2^15000.

It's an apples to balloons comparison, basically.

(I spent about twenty minutes staring at an empty comment box and sweating blood before I figured this out, for the record.)

Comment author: cousin_it 08 July 2010 08:00:10AM *  0 points [-]

I think this is still wrong. Take the finite case where both hypotheses are used to explain sequences of a billion throws. Then the first hypothesis describes one world, and the second one describes an exponentially huge number of worlds. You seem to think that the length of the sequence should depend on the length of the hypothesis, and I don't understand why.