Morendil comments on MWI, copies and probability - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Morendil 25 June 2010 07:07:13PM 2 points [-]

The poll in the previous post had to do with a hypothetical guarantee to create "extra" (non-interacting) copies.

In the situation presented here there is nothing justifying the use of the word "extra", and it seems analogous to quantum-lottery situations that have been discussed previously. I clearly have a reason to want the world to be such that (assuming MWI) as many of my future selves as possible experience a future that I would want to experience.

As I have argued previously, the term "copy" is misleading anyway, on top of which the word "extra" was reinforcing the connotations linked to copy-as-backup, where in MWI nothing of the sort is happening.

So, I'm still perplexed. Possibly a clack on my part, mind you.

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Comment author: Morendil 25 June 2010 08:11:11PM 5 points [-]

I value having a future that accords with my preferences. I am in no way indifferent to your tossing a grenade my way, with a subjective 1/2 probability of dying. (Or non-subjectively, "forcing half of the future into a state where all my plans, ambitions and expectations come to a grievous end.")

I am, however, indifferent to your taking an action (creating an "extra" non-interacting copy) which has no influence on what future I will experience.

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Comment author: Morendil 25 June 2010 09:09:04PM 2 points [-]

I wouldn't be happy to experience waking up and realizing that I was a copy about to be snuffed (or even wondering whether I was). So I would prefer not to inflict that on any future selves.

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Comment author: Morendil 25 June 2010 09:21:55PM 3 points [-]

It doesn't really seem to matter, in that case, that you wake them up at all.

And no, I wouldn't get very worked up about the fate of such patterns (except insofar as I would like them to be preserved for backup purposes).

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Comment author: Morendil 25 June 2010 08:03:21PM 6 points [-]

As cousin_it has argued, "selectively killing most of my future selves" is something that I subjectively experience as "having a sizeable probability of dying". That doesn't appeal.

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Comment author: Morendil 25 June 2010 08:14:45PM 0 points [-]

Yup.