timtyler comments on MWI, copies and probability - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 26 June 2010 12:26:38PM *  0 points [-]

I would be fine with that - assuming that the copies came out with the extra money; that the copying setup was reliable, etc.

This apparently has little to do with valuing "extra copies in other quantum branches" though - there is no "Everett merge" procedure.

Comment author: red75 26 June 2010 02:05:00PM 1 point [-]

Can I sum it as: if you know that "backup copies" exist then it's OK to risk being exploded? Do you care for being backed up in all Everett branches then? Or is it enough to backup in branch where grenade explodes?

Comment author: timtyler 27 June 2010 08:05:09AM *  2 points [-]

The usual idea of a "backup" is that it can be used to restore from if the "original" is lost or damaged. Everett worlds are not "backups" in that sense of the word. If a quantum grenade kills someone, their grieving wife and daughters are not consoled much by the fact that - in other Everett worlds - the bomb did not go off. The supposed "backups" are inaccessible to them.

Comment author: wedrifid 26 June 2010 03:38:19PM *  1 point [-]

Can I sum it as: if you know that "backup copies" exist then it's OK to risk being exploded?

Kirk and Scotty would say yes.

Comment author: wedrifid 26 June 2010 01:04:23PM 0 points [-]

This apparently has little to do with valuing "extra copies in other quantum branches" though - there is no "Everett merge" procedure.

While for the purposes of this discussion it makes no difference, my understanding is that the "Everett branches" form more of a mesh if you look at them closely. That is, each possible state for a world can be arrived at from many different past states, with some of those states themselves sharing common ancestors.

Comment author: timtyler 26 June 2010 02:00:33PM *  0 points [-]

Maybe - but that is certainly not the conventional MWI - see:

"Why don't worlds fuse, as well as split?"

Comment author: wedrifid 26 June 2010 03:19:21PM *  2 points [-]

Yes, entropy considerations make recombining comparatively rare. Much like it's more likely for an egg to break than to recombine perfectly. Physical interactions being reversible in principle doesn't mean we should expect to see things reverse themselves all that often. I doubt that we have a substantial disagreement (at least, we don't if I take your reference to be representative of your position.)