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Comment author: Strange7 27 June 2010 12:04:16PM 3 points [-]

I react similarly to attempts at coercion. Is this perhaps an asp thing?

Comment author: NihilCredo 27 June 2010 04:54:20PM 4 points [-]

More like a self-esteem thing. Nearly everyone whom I have ever known and respected (and, as far as I know, everyone whom these people know and respect) reacts in that way, and that group includes a lot of people who are as far from aspies as possible.

People who were sincerely friendly and submissive towards their abusers got called many disrespectful names, depending on the context: sluts, boot-lickers, whipped boys, pet doggies, etc.

Comment author: wedrifid 27 June 2010 12:31:22PM 0 points [-]

Do you use asp to refer to Aspergers' ?(I sometimes see 'aspie' but haven't encountered asp).

It is certainly in there among the big cluster of correlated traits and labels that includes Aspergers' syndrome and often ADHD. I don't necessarily qualify for an Aspie label although I quite probably would if I had less IQ. I do know that i would never attempt to coerce any of my friends, lovers or enemies that I identify as having Aspergers'. I wouldn't expect it to give good results.

Mind you I don't coerce 'typical' others as much as is optimal either. The work of the mind projection fallacy. I have to remind myself that others are 'spineless pushovers' (my perspective) or 'do not have an attitude problem' (another common perspective).

Comment author: Strange7 27 June 2010 02:50:01PM 3 points [-]

I use 'asp' to refer to both autism-spectrum and archetypical Serpent qualities, because of the pun and the overlap.

Comment author: Blueberry 28 June 2010 07:52:43AM 3 points [-]

Serpent? As in Slytherin (sneaky, tricky, conniving, plotting)? That doesn't seem like there would be much overlap.

Comment author: Strange7 29 June 2010 07:04:12AM 2 points [-]

Oddly enough, the archetypal serpent was a well-developed concept before J. K. Rowling was born.

Both involve social incapacity, compensated for with cold analytics. Both are potential sources of powerful knowledge, complicated by disrespect for, or incomprehension of, traditional limits on the safe use of such knowledge. Both have an unnervingly primordial feel.

Comment author: Blueberry 29 June 2010 11:50:25PM 4 points [-]

Don't worry; I don't actually think Rowling made that up.

But I'm surprised by the "social incapacity" part: I would think of a serpent as sort of a sociopathic master manipulator.

Comment author: Strange7 18 April 2011 02:02:28PM 3 points [-]

Doesn't sociopathy qualify as a type of incapacity?

Comment author: Blueberry 25 March 2012 01:01:21AM 0 points [-]

An emotional one. Not necessarily a social one (though it can be).

Comment author: wedrifid 27 June 2010 04:42:09PM 2 points [-]

Ahh, I may just have to adopt that name. All too apt!