WrongBot comments on Unknown knowns: Why did you choose to be monogamous? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: WrongBot 29 June 2010 05:00:19PM 2 points [-]

I think that we're defining norms in slightly different ways. I have been meaning norms to mean "what people should do" and not just "what people do." I've also been stretching monogamy a little to mean the ideal of having only one partner at a time, whether or not that's in the context of marriage. It's a fairly common usage, but still easy to be unclear about.

So I would say that serial monogamy is still monogamy, and that promiscuous sex outside the context of any relationship has little to do with relationship styles at all. Your examples point to a failure to enforce monogamous norms while the norms remain unchanged, I would say.

Or perhaps monogamous norms are weakening, and these examples are the result of particular groups not having any strong relationship norms at all; various kinds of polyamory and swinging offer social norms that can be as strong as monogamous ones, but they're largely unknown.

Again, it's hard to say. What evidence there is can be plausibly interpreted in quite a few ways, some of which I'm sure neither of us have thought of.

Comment author: Blueberry 30 June 2010 12:11:34AM 0 points [-]

promiscuous sex outside the context of any relationship has little to do with relationship styles at all.

I'm not sure that's fair. Couldn't you say that having multiple friends with benefits is a type of " relationship style," in a sense?

monogamous norms are weakening, and these examples are the result of particular groups not having any strong relationship norms at all; various kinds of polyamory and swinging offer social norms that can be as strong as monogamous ones

Again, "take some time between serious relationships to have multiple casual partners" can be a relationship norm, one that appears very common.

Comment author: WrongBot 30 June 2010 02:32:53AM 1 point [-]

I would calling being friends with benefits a relationship; I was thinking more of relatively-anonymous one night stands.

Likewise, casual partners are still partners; I also think that having multiple casual partners is frowned upon much more than you indicate.