Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Unknown knowns: Why did you choose to be monogamous? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 March 2011 08:05:15PM 21 points [-]

Just read through these links, and I have to say that the concept of "fun" leapt out at me as being largely missing.

I suspect there's a major problem where a lot of the people who spend the most time writing about polyamory or BDSM or, hell, sexuality in general, are people who literally have nothing more important in their identities. They're trying way too hard to sound adult and serious. You want to scream at them to just lighten up.

I'm starting to get that dreadful "I could do better than that" feeling which makes me do things like write Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality or explain Bayes's Theorem...

Comment author: clarissethorn 18 March 2011 01:20:11AM 12 points [-]

Hey Eliezer,

Interesting point. I think part of the problem is that sex theorists have to work very hard to get ourselves taken seriously, so many of us overcompensate. Another problem is that while sex is totally fun, sex also comes with an enormous potential to harm, so it's important to take it seriously at least somewhat.

Also, sex is a highly-triggering area for most people. I specifically try to include some humor and/or sexy anecdotes in my writing, but I find that I am considerably likely to be misinterpreted when I do so, and when I'm misinterpreted it can get really bad really fast ("I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST MADE LIGHT OF ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS!11").

One of the projects I'm outlining right now is a BDSM erotica novella in which I try to include as much theory as I possibly can while still keeping it sexy. We'll see if I succeed.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 March 2011 03:28:14AM 18 points [-]

One of the projects I'm outlining right now is a BDSM erotica novella in which I try to include as much theory as I possibly can while still keeping it sexy.

Harry Potter and the Methods of Sexuality?

Comment author: clarissethorn 20 March 2011 09:05:58PM 7 points [-]

Hahaha. You wish.

Comment author: MinibearRex 03 April 2011 07:17:22PM 3 points [-]

Omake?

Comment author: jwhendy 01 September 2011 02:52:59PM 2 points [-]

rule 34.

Comment author: clarissethorn 18 March 2011 01:32:59AM 6 points [-]

Another thought -- along the lines of my first paragraph, one common term that's used to insult sex-positive feminists (by feminists who don't identify as sex-positive) is "fun feminists". The idea being that we wouldn't hold our position if it weren't "fun", or that we've been distracted from the "important" stuff by the "fun" stuff, or that we get undeserved attention for being more "fun". This obviously makes some of us feel like we have to prove that we're not that fun :P

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 March 2011 03:27:24AM 8 points [-]

I'd just call 'em "dull feminists" and get on with my life.

Comment author: Swimmer963 03 April 2011 04:07:37PM 2 points [-]

I want to read that novella. It sounds educational.