prase comments on What Cost for Irrationality? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cousin_it 01 July 2010 10:07:26PM *  4 points [-]

Human beings don't eat money. Your utility/money curve depends on the prices of things you can buy with the money, and the relative utilities of those things. Both factors can vary widely. I know no law of nature saying a $1000 gadget can't give you more than twice the utility of a $500 gadget. For the most direct example, the $1000 gadget could be some kind of money-printing device (e.g. a degree of higher education).

Comment author: prase 01 July 2010 10:12:23PM 0 points [-]

This can explain locally convex curves. But is it imaginable to have a convex curve globally?

Comment author: Kingreaper 01 July 2010 11:08:57PM *  4 points [-]

It's imaginable for an AI to have such a curve, but implausible for a human having a globally convex curve.

Comment author: prase 03 July 2010 06:44:00PM 1 point [-]

That's what I think. Anything is imaginable for AI.

Comment author: Blueberry 01 July 2010 10:50:13PM *  0 points [-]

Yes. y = log(x) is convex globally. A logarithmic utility function makes sense if you think of each additional dollar being worth an amount inversely proportional to what you have already.

Comment author: Peter_de_Blanc 01 July 2010 11:01:40PM 1 point [-]

No, your example is concave. The above posters were referring to functions with positive second derivative.

Comment author: steven0461 01 July 2010 11:08:54PM *  2 points [-]

The mnemonic I was taught is "conve^x like e^x"

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 05 December 2010 08:09:59PM 2 points [-]

I learned "concave up" like e^x and "concave down" like log x.

Comment author: Manfred 05 December 2010 08:24:52PM 1 point [-]

How in jubbly jibblies did this get voted down? The obvious way to resolve the ambiguity in "convex" and "concave" for functions is to also specify a direction.

Comment author: shokwave 05 December 2010 08:48:28PM 0 points [-]

It might be downvoted because it specifies "concave up" and then "concave down".