ocr-fork comments on Open Thread: July 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 06 July 2010 07:13:30AM 3 points [-]

adults have simply forgotten for the sake of their sanity?

not completely silly.

Quite right. Suicide rates spike in adolescence, go down, and only spike again in old age, don't they? Suicide is, I think, a good indicator that someone is having a bad life.

(Also, I've seen mentions on LW of studies that people raising kids are unhappier than if they were childless, but once the kids are older, they retrospectively think they were much happier than they actually were.)

Comment author: ocr-fork 29 July 2010 11:35:30PM *  6 points [-]

Quite right. Suicide rates spike in adolescence, go down, and only spike again in old age, don't they? Suicide is, I think, a good indicator that someone is having a bad life.

Suicide rates start at .5 in 100,000 for ages 5-14 and rise to about 15 in 100,000 for seniors.

Comment author: gwern 30 July 2010 04:27:50AM 4 points [-]

Interesting. From page 30, suicide rates increase monotonically in the 5 age groups up to and including 45-54 (peaking at 17.2 per 100,000), but then drops by 3 to 14.5 (age 55-64) and drops another 2 for the 65-74 age bracket (12.6), and then rises again after 75 (15.9).

So, I was right that the rates increase again in old age, but wrong about when the first spike was.

Comment author: pjeby 30 July 2010 04:27:27PM 2 points [-]

So, I was right that the rates increase again in old age, but wrong about when the first spike was.

Unfortunately, the age brackets don't really tell you if there's a teenage spike, except that if there is one, it happens after age 14. That 9.9 could actually be a much higher level concentrated within a few years, if I understand correctly.