Theist comments on Rationality Quotes: July 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Theist 09 July 2010 08:33:21PM 0 points [-]

...pain is far stronger than necessary as a warning sign.

It seems pretty clear to me that this was not true in our ancestral environment. It may be the case in our present artificially benign environment however.

Comment author: WrongBot 09 July 2010 08:38:13PM 1 point [-]

That is precisely what I mean; but also note that there are circumstances in the ancestral environment in which pain is entirely useless, such as when one has been mortally wounded. So even in the worst case we can do better than pain, and in the current case I suspect we can do much, much better.

Comment author: SilasBarta 09 July 2010 11:01:42PM 1 point [-]

Evolution has the problem of path-dependence, though. Once the "don't do that" / "pay attention to that" mechanism builds up slowly over many generations, it cannot refactor in such a way that it surgically cuts out the internal feeling of pain in precisely those circumstances where, "hey, might as well give up".

Comment author: mattnewport 09 July 2010 11:22:32PM 0 points [-]

It's hard to see what reproductive benefit there would be to reduced suffering when dying either so there is unlikely to be any evolutionary pressure in that direction.