Rain comments on Rationality Quotes: July 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Rain 11 July 2010 01:47:48PM *  4 points [-]

"Killing is wrong, no matter what," is a very powerful and standard meme for heroes.

It is counter intuitive for someone who "loves people" to kill someone. It requires a less-biased assessment of expected utility than is typically performed. That's why I enjoyed the original quote; in the context of the movie, it made sense in the way of typical human failings for him to say no, and his body language and tone highly suggested he would do so right until the end.

Comment author: CronoDAS 12 July 2010 08:19:43PM 4 points [-]

"Killing is wrong, no matter what," is a very powerful and standard meme for heroes.

It's also convenient for writers. Imagine what would happen to the Batman comic book series if someone finally got around to putting a bullet through The Joker's brain. (In a Discworld story, it's suggested that "heroes" and Dark Lords have a bit of an understanding: Dark Lords keep on making all of the mistakes on the Evil Overlord list, and heroes keep on letting Dark Lords escape after the day has been saved.)

Comment author: wedrifid 11 July 2010 03:01:17PM 2 points [-]

"Killing is wrong, no matter what," is a very powerful and standard meme for heroes.

And nauseating. Don't forget nauseating.

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 12 July 2010 06:59:54PM 1 point [-]

In my reading, the assessment was funny exactly because it was emotional and therefore biased. That's what use of "son of a bitch" suggested as well.

Comment author: Rain 12 July 2010 07:23:08PM *  2 points [-]

Emotion drives value and purpose; logic is compatible with emotion; Spock is a bad example for rationalists.