I think that the pro cryonics people in this mini-debate have failed miserably -- several people have posted "demands for particular proof" but it is not having any effect on SamAdams, who is clearly an intelligent person.

I suggest that the 'pro cryonics people' have cause to object to your presumption. You have defined their success and failure in terms of their ability to make SamAdams concede a point. Why on earth would people want to accept either that challenge or that judgement?

I haven't taken a pro-cryonics stance in this mini-debate but I suspect you refer to me too, given that I brought up "demands for particular proof". For my part convincing SamAdams to preserve himself with cryonics is exactly the opposite of what I desire. I want him to go away. Not go and preserve himself so we're stuck with him forever.