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Comment author: nerzhin 15 July 2010 05:27:12PM 2 points [-]

I consider entertainment to be a field with a substantial degree of objective measurement because people are good at telling whether they've been entertained.

People choose entertainment for basically the same reasons they choose political opinions or other beliefs: social pressures, being part of a team. Entertainment has objective measurement because people directly change what it is that's being measured.

If I decide that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction because I like the team that says so, I'm still wrong. If I decide that Nickelback is entertaining to me because people around me say the same thing, I become correct.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 15 July 2010 11:54:42PM 4 points [-]

If I decide that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction because I like the team that says so, I'm still wrong. If I decide that Nickelback is entertaining to me because people around me say the same thing, I become correct.

I don't have high hopes for CEV, but I hope that humans at least converge on the obviously correct preferences to avoid hot pockets and Nickelback whenever possible.

(I think I became slightly infamous at Benton house for insisting that certain preferences could be objectively correct under any reasonable amount of reflection. This was mostly because something deep down in the core of my being knows that liking hot pockets just has to be fundamentally irrational. This is indicative of the depth of most of my philosophical intuitions.)

Comment author: CronoDAS 16 July 2010 04:06:09AM *  2 points [-]

But I like the two Nickelback songs that I've heard.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 16 July 2010 04:08:45AM 2 points [-]

:) I've never actually listened to Nickelback, but ignorance will never keep me from trolling.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 17 July 2010 11:16:21PM 0 points [-]

This was mostly because something deep down in the core of my being knows that liking hot pockets just has to be fundamentally irrational.

I agree, it is rational to think that some things "just have to be" "fundamentally irrational".

Comment author: magfrump 15 July 2010 05:30:16PM 2 points [-]

Not always. Sometimes you become dreadfully unhappy.

But in many cases the point stands.